阿登山谷 发表于 2015-5-11 12:06:00

引用40楼 @白鹿巷先锋 发表的:
当他的队友跟他合作并给予帮助的时候他能成为皇马最好的球员。但愿皇马能认识到这点。
我不知道这是由哪个版本翻译过来的,不是阿斯的锅就是中翻的锅。这段话是要和前面连起来看的,多让贝尔拿球(贝尔得到更多机会)→同时队友和贝尔配合(两者缺一不可)→贝尔有机会成为最好的→希望皇马不要卖卖卖或变相打压贝尔。(也许贝尔现在表现不那么好有各种各样的原因但硬能力依然是有的)
那一段哪一句是翻对了的?

我看你这种翻译法才是自己脑补,人家阿斯哪里报道错了,中翻有问题么?

白鹿巷先锋 发表于 2015-5-11 12:21:00

引用41楼 @阿登山谷 发表的: 我看你这种翻译法才是自己脑补,人家阿斯哪里报道错了,中翻有问题么?
我的翻译在第一段啊,后面的是我自己的分析

未已 发表于 2015-5-11 12:27:00

引用42楼 @白鹿巷先锋 发表的:
我的翻译在第一段啊,后面的是我自己的分析

通关他的那段话,指责队友没有给他传球和支持不够的意思是显而易见的,这锅也要推给翻译么

白鹿巷先锋 发表于 2015-5-11 12:30:00

引用43楼 @阿登山谷 发表的: 通关他的那段话,指责队友没有给他传球和支持不够的意思是显而易见的,这锅也要推给翻译么
我没说传球这个是错翻,不要把锅推到我身上。

since2014 发表于 2015-5-11 12:31:00

引用40楼 @白鹿巷先锋 发表的:
   当他的队友跟他合作并给予帮助的时候他能成为皇马最好的球员。但愿皇马能认识到这点。
我不知道这是由哪个版本翻译过来的,不是阿斯的锅就是中翻的锅。这段话是要和前面连起来看的,多让贝尔拿球(贝尔得到更多机会)→同时队友和贝尔配合(两者缺一不可)→贝尔有机会成为最好的→希望皇马不要卖卖卖或变相打压贝尔。(也许贝尔现在表现不那么好有各种各样的原因但硬能力依然是有的)
那一段哪一句是翻对了的?

求你了,那个英文新闻开头就说了转载自经纪人本人和英国每日电讯报的采访,关阿斯鸟事啊
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/gareth-bale/11595203/Gareth-Bales-career-is-suffering-because-his-Real-Madrid-team-mates-do-not-pass-to-him.html
Gareth Bale’s career at Real Madrid is suffering because his team-mates are not passing to him, the player’s agent, Jonathan Barnett, said on Saturday night.
Bale, the world’s most expensive footballer, was criticised for his display in the Champions League semi-final first leg against Juventus last Tuesday, when he made fewer passes than most of his team?mates. Yet official Uefa statistics showed that he covered more ground than many of those team-mates, suggesting he is being starved of the ball by other Real players.
Pundits Roy Keane, Paul Scholes and Lee Dixon were all critical of the Wales winger, 25, but Barnett rounded on those critics, pointing to the fact that Bale covered an average of 113 metres per minute, more than five team-mates including Cristiano Ronaldo (101) yet had only 32 touches of the ball.
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Gareth Bale barely got a sniff against Juventus" Giorgio Chiellini
“We’ve been vindicated by these statistics and it’s what we’ve been saying all along,” Barnett told Telegraph Sport. “It proves that people don’t know what they’re talking about when they criticise Gareth, they are not looking at it properly.
“Real have to work with Gareth and pass the ball to him more. Give him more of the ball and let him show everybody what he’s good at. He’s going to be the best player at Real Madrid when his team-mates work with him and help him. Hopefully Real will come to terms with this.
“I’m very upset that professional pundits don’t realise these facts. Instead of criticising, they should look at it more closely because it’s plain to see when you watch the games.”
? Real would be mad to sell Bale to Manchester United
Barnett said that only Bale’s temperament had prevented the player from complaining in person to Carlo Ancelotti, the Real Madrid manager.
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Man Utd have been linked with a move for Bale this summer
“Most people would have been broken by this but he is determined,” he said. “He could have screamed and shouted or knocked on the manager’s office door but he doesn’t want to upset anyone. I spoke to him on Thursday and while he’s obviously p------ off things aren’t going well he is desperate to get out there again.”
Bale’s difficult season has cast his Madrid future into doubt, with Manchester United and Chelsea said to be considering bids to bring him back to the Premier League this summer.
However, Ancelotti has remained firmly behind Bale and Barnett insisted that a potential move was not even a possibility this year.
?
“Every top club in the world would want to sign him but he will be at Real Madrid next season,” he said. “There’s no way he is going anywhere in the summer. When we said he always wanted to play for Real, it was 100 per cent true and he’s determined to be a success there.”
beinsport也转载了,同样双引号直接引用经纪人原话
www.beinsports.tv/la-liga/title/real-madrid-players-don-t-pass-enough-to-gareth-bale-claims-agent/article/2q7jct82q0lg138e57a5wejnj
Gareth Bale"s Real Madrid team-mates" refusal to pass to him regularly in games is behind the Welshman"s slumping form, according to his agent.
The Wales international has scored in just two of his past 18 Real outings, one of which saw his early strike dwarfed by Cristiano Ronaldo"s five-goal haul in a 9-1 destruction of Granada.
Bale has come in for criticism from all quarters, with pundits and Real fans alike venting frustration at his recent performances.
4 - Gareth Bale has assisted more Cristiano Ronaldo"s headers than any other Real Madrid player this season (four, all comps). Friend
— OptaJose (@OptaJose) May 4, 2015
Real face a huge uphill battle to overhaul Barcelona at the top of La Liga and need to overturn a first-leg deficit to Juventus in order to reach the UEFA Champions League final.
But Bale"s representative Jonathan Barnett said involving the world"s most expensive player more in games could be the answer, rather than criticising his lack of impact.
"Real have to work with Gareth and pass the ball to him more," Barnett told The Telegraph. "Give him more of the ball and let him show everybody what he"s good at.
"He"s going to be the best player at Real Madrid when his team-mates work with him and help him. Hopefully Real will come to terms with this."
Barnett added on Bale"s desire to prove his detractors wrong: "Most people would have been broken by this but he is determined.
"He could have screamed and shouted or knocked on the manager"s office door but he doesn"t want to upset anyone.
"I spoke to him on Thursday and while he’s obviously p***** off things aren"t going well he is desperate to get out there again."
?
Though Bale seems far from content with how life in Spain is treating him at the moment, Barnett played down rumours linking his client with a big-money return to the Premier League in the coming months.
"Every top club in the world would want to sign him but he will be at Real Madrid next season," Barnett insisted.
"There"s no way he is going anywhere in the summer. When we said he always wanted to play for Real, it was 100 per cent true and he"s determined to be a success there."

白鹿巷先锋 发表于 2015-5-11 12:42:00

引用45楼 @未已 发表的:求你了,那个英文新闻开头就说了转载自经纪人本人和英国每日电讯报的采访,关阿斯鸟事啊www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/gareth-bale/11595203/Gareth-Bales-career-is-suffering-because-his-Real-Madrid-team-mates-do-not-pass-to-him.htmlGareth Bale’s career at Real Madrid is suffering because his team-mates are not passing to him, the player’s agent, Jonathan Barnett, said on Saturday night.Bale, the world’s most expensive footballer, was criticised for his display in the Champions League semi-final first leg against Juventus last Tuesday, when he made fewer passes than most of his team?mates. Yet official Uefa statistics showed that he covered more ground than many of those team-mates, suggesting he is being starved of the ball by other Real players.Pundits Roy Keane, Paul Scholes and Lee Dixon were all critical of the Wales winger, 25, but Barnett rounded on those critics, pointing to the fact that Bale covered an average of 113 metres per minute, more than five team-mates including Cristiano Ronaldo (101) yet had only 32 touches of the ball.?Gareth Bale barely got a sniff against Juventus" Giorgio Chiellini“We’ve been vindicated by these statistics and it’s what we’ve been saying all along,” Barnett told Telegraph Sport. “It proves that people don’t know what they’re talking about when they criticise Gareth, they are not looking at it properly.“Real have to work with Gareth and pass the ball to him more. Give him more of the ball and let him show everybody what he’s good at. He’s going to be the best player at Real Madrid when his team-mates work with him and help him. Hopefully Real will come to terms with this.“I’m very upset that professional pundits don’t realise these facts. Instead of criticising, they should look at it more closely because it’s plain to see when you watch the games.”? Real would be mad to sell Bale to Manchester UnitedBarnett said that only Bale’s temperament had prevented the player from complaining in person to Carlo Ancelotti, the Real Madrid manager.?Man Utd have been linked with a move for Bale this summer“Most people would have been broken by this but he is determined,” he said. “He could have screamed and shouted or knocked on the manager’s office door but he doesn’t want to upset anyone. I spoke to him on Thursday and while he’s obviously p------ off things aren’t going well he is desperate to get out there again.”Bale’s difficult season has cast his Madrid future into doubt, with Manchester United and Chelsea said to be considering bids to bring him back to the Premier League this summer.However, Ancelotti has remained firmly behind Bale and Barnett insisted that a potential move was not even a possibility this year.?“Every top club in the world would want to sign him but he will be at Real Madrid next season,” he said. “There’s no way he is going anywhere in the summer. When we said he always wanted to play for Real, it was 100 per cent true and he’s determined to be a success there.”beinsport也转载了,同样双引号直接引用经纪人原话www.beinsports.tv/la-liga/title/real-madrid-players-don-t-pass-enough-to-gareth-bale-claims-agent/article/2q7jct82q0lg138e57a5wejnjGareth Bale"s Real Madrid team-mates" refusal to pass to him regularly in games is behind the Welshman"s slumping form, according to his agent.The Wales international has scored in just two of his past 18 Real outings, one of which saw his early strike dwarfed by Cristiano Ronaldo"s five-goal haul in a 9-1 destruction of Granada.Bale has come in for criticism from all quarters, with pundits and Real fans alike venting frustration at his recent performances.4 - Gareth Bale has assisted more Cristiano Ronaldo"s headers than any other Real Madrid player this season (four, all comps). Friend— OptaJose (@OptaJose) May 4, 2015Real face a huge uphill battle to overhaul Barcelona at the top of La Liga and need to overturn a first-leg deficit to Juventus in order to reach the UEFA Champions League final.But Bale"s representative Jonathan Barnett said involving the world"s most expensive player more in games could be the answer, rather than criticising his lack of impact."Real have to work with Gareth and pass the ball to him more," Barnett told The Telegraph. "Give him more of the ball and let him show everybody what he"s good at. "He"s going to be the best player at Real Madrid when his team-mates work with him and help him. Hopefully Real will come to terms with this."Barnett added on Bale"s desire to prove his detractors wrong: "Most people would have been broken by this but he is determined."He could have screamed and shouted or knocked on the manager"s office door but he doesn"t want to upset anyone. "I spoke to him on Thursday and while he’s obviously p***** off things aren"t going well he is desperate to get out there again."?Though Bale seems far from content with how life in Spain is treating him at the moment, Barnett played down rumours linking his client with a big-money return to the Premier League in the coming months."Every top club in the world would want to sign him but he will be at Real Madrid next season," Barnett insisted."There"s no way he is going anywhere in the summer. When we said he always wanted to play for Real, it was 100 per cent true and he"s determined to be a success there."
因为我看到前面某楼说来源是阿斯所以我以为是从阿斯翻译过来的,英翻西翻中嘛,语言里一个用词的变化就可能导致全句的含义变化,如果真不是从阿斯翻译的那我道歉。

明智喵秀 发表于 2015-5-11 12:48:00

引用45楼 @未已 发表的:
求你了,那个英文新闻开头就说了转载自经纪人本人和英国每日电讯报的采访,关阿斯鸟事啊
www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/players/gareth-bale/11595203/Gareth-Bales-career-is-suffering-because-his-Real-Madrid-team-mates-do-not-pass-to-him.html
Gareth Bale’s career at Real Madrid is suffering because his team-mates are not passing to him, the player’s agent, Jonathan Barnett, said on Saturday night.
Bale, the world’s most expensive footballer, was criticised for his display in the Champions League semi-final first leg against Juventus last Tuesday, when he made fewer passes than most of his team?mates. Yet official Uefa statistics showed that he covered more ground than many of those team-mates, suggesting he is being starved of the ball by other Real players.
Pundits Roy Keane, Paul Scholes and Lee Dixon were all critical of the Wales winger, 25, but Barnett rounded on those critics, pointing to the fact that Bale covered an average of 113 metres per minute, more than five team-mates including Cristiano Ronaldo (101) yet had only 32 touches of the ball.
?
Gareth Bale barely got a sniff against Juventus" Giorgio Chiellini
“We’ve been vindicated by these statistics and it’s what we’ve been saying all along,” Barnett told Telegraph Sport. “It proves that people don’t know what they’re talking about when they criticise Gareth, they are not looking at it properly.
“Real have to work with Gareth and pass the ball to him more. Give him more of the ball and let him show everybody what he’s good at. He’s going to be the best player at Real Madrid when his team-mates work with him and help him. Hopefully Real will come to terms with this.
“I’m very upset that professional pundits don’t realise these facts. Instead of criticising, they should look at it more closely because it’s plain to see when you watch the games.”
? Real would be mad to sell Bale to Manchester United
Barnett said that only Bale’s temperament had prevented the player from complaining in person to Carlo Ancelotti, the Real Madrid manager.
?
Man Utd have been linked with a move for Bale this summer
“Most people would have been broken by this but he is determined,” he said. “He could have screamed and shouted or knocked on the manager’s office door but he doesn’t want to upset anyone. I spoke to him on Thursday and while he’s obviously p------ off things aren’t going well he is desperate to get out there again.”
Bale’s difficult season has cast his Madrid future into doubt, with Manchester United and Chelsea said to be considering bids to bring him back to the Premier League this summer.
However, Ancelotti has remained firmly behind Bale and Barnett insisted that a potential move was not even a possibility this year.
?
“Every top club in the world would want to sign him but he will be at Real Madrid next season,” he said. “There’s no way he is going anywhere in the summer. When we said he always wanted to play for Real, it was 100 per cent true and he’s determined to be a success there.”
beinsport也转载了,同样双引号直接引用经纪人原话
www.beinsports.tv/la-liga/title/real-madrid-players-don-t-pass-enough-to-gareth-bale-claims-agent/article/2q7jct82q0lg138e57a5wejnj
Gareth Bale"s Real Madrid team-mates" refusal to pass to him regularly in games is behind the Welshman"s slumping form, according to his agent.
The Wales international has scored in just two of his past 18 Real outings, one of which saw his early strike dwarfed by Cristiano Ronaldo"s five-goal haul in a 9-1 destruction of Granada.
Bale has come in for criticism from all quarters, with pundits and Real fans alike venting frustration at his recent performances.
4 - Gareth Bale has assisted more Cristiano Ronaldo"s headers than any other Real Madrid player this season (four, all comps). Friend
— OptaJose (@OptaJose) May 4, 2015
Real face a huge uphill battle to overhaul Barcelona at the top of La Liga and need to overturn a first-leg deficit to Juventus in order to reach the UEFA Champions League final.
But Bale"s representative Jonathan Barnett said involving the world"s most expensive player more in games could be the answer, rather than criticising his lack of impact.
"Real have to work with Gareth and pass the ball to him more," Barnett told The Telegraph. "Give him more of the ball and let him show everybody what he"s good at.
"He"s going to be the best player at Real Madrid when his team-mates work with him and help him. Hopefully Real will come to terms with this."
Barnett added on Bale"s desire to prove his detractors wrong: "Most people would have been broken by this but he is determined.
"He could have screamed and shouted or knocked on the manager"s office door but he doesn"t want to upset anyone.
"I spoke to him on Thursday and while he’s obviously p***** off things aren"t going well he is desperate to get out there again."
?
Though Bale seems far from content with how life in Spain is treating him at the moment, Barnett played down rumours linking his client with a big-money return to the Premier League in the coming months.
"Every top club in the world would want to sign him but he will be at Real Madrid next season," Barnett insisted.
"There"s no way he is going anywhere in the summer. When we said he always wanted to play for Real, it was 100 per cent true and he"s determined to be a success there."

看他id明显是贝尔迷,你和他较什么劲

iDenpa 发表于 2015-5-11 12:59:00

引用47楼 @since2014 发表的:看他id明显是贝尔迷,你和他较什么劲
人蜜帮无关的经纪人说话其实没啥必要,我也觉得我有点一根筋了,希望对这些不在意的大家看着乐乐就行了,求同存异

未已 发表于 2015-5-11 13:09:00

[作者去小黑屋休息了]希望您注意自己的言行,遵守论坛版规
禁言原因:
首先,贝尔得配得上队友给他传球
http://b1.hoopchina.com.cn/post/smile/icon_shrug.gif

Damon890977 发表于 2015-5-11 13:24:00

最近猴子这表现不传球也正常啊,怪不得别人,这赛季表现就是没怎么好过。

libertyfly34 发表于 2015-5-11 13:29:00

引用47楼 @since2014 发表的:
看他id明显是贝尔迷,你和他较什么劲

   我真不知道什么时候兴起的一有不合心意的新闻就咬定是翻译转载的错这风气。何况那位如果是热刺球迷的话更应该了解贝尔经纪人风格一向如此,在英超时就是这样

Nirvana613 发表于 2015-5-11 15:48:00

贝尔我要说 他值1亿。。。

在佛爷要买他的时候,我就说了喷老佛爷乱买乱卖花1亿好像花的是你家的钱的都是脑残。。

去年他帮唔皇拿了欧冠的时候,外线超车拿国王杯的时候,我曾经不止一次拿贝尔来喷这些骂老佛爷的脑残;

贝尔需要一大片的空地,然后一个切入,就来个不讲理的远射,而且还能进!!!!

三票哥已经老了,如果今年要卖人,我建议卖C罗,这个时候可以卖个好价钱给他抬啊,C罗也可以回家养老。

贝尔是唔皇的未来,不服的,我记着呢,,,他会打你脸的。早晚的事儿

PLL2 发表于 2015-5-11 16:27:00

引用52楼 @Damon890977 发表的:
贝尔我要说 他值1亿。。。

在佛爷要买他的时候,我就说了喷老佛爷乱买乱卖花1亿好像花的是你家的钱的都是脑残。。

去年他帮唔皇拿了欧冠的时候,外线超车拿国王杯的时候,我曾经不止一次拿贝尔来喷这些骂老佛爷的脑残;

贝尔需要一大片的空地,然后一个切入,就来个不讲理的远射,而且还能进!!!!

三票哥已经老了,如果今年要卖人,我建议卖C罗,这个时候可以卖个好价钱给他抬啊,C罗也可以回家养老。

贝尔是唔皇的未来,不服的,我记着呢,,,他会打你脸的。早晚的事儿

就现在皇马这些配备,贝尔有什么希望成为未来?哈妹和伊斯科这些比贝尔强的太多,就算C罗走也伦不到贝尔,再说今年夏天C罗根本不可能走,呵呵

海天魂 发表于 2015-5-11 16:40:00

现在贝尔的问题是真心着急,但是他这赛季不可能被卖也是肯定的

hulia07 发表于 2015-5-11 18:04:00

这经纪人是想干嘛,唯恐贝尔压力还不够大么

贝尔融入是有问题,但这是应该让他主动去慢慢解决的,不是让你经纪人在媒体面前吵的

AOKOALICE 发表于 2015-5-11 18:20:00

估计是经纪人打定主意把贝尔推销给英超,所以相对贝尔在皇马的人际关系,他更在意其在英媒的声誉

爱劳尔爱卡西 发表于 2015-5-11 20:40:00

贝尔球权可能是有点不够,

tianhu_04 发表于 2015-5-12 00:53:00

引用39楼 @西门众生 发表的:


是,巴内特是强势的人,他在贝尔转会皇马和热刺主席双方焦灼的时候,既敢对抗列维、又敢说FP,坚持贝尔的身价不动摇,他的能量不容小视。

PS:贝尔并没那么容易卖,他的工资除了土豪、到哪儿都是打破球队薪资平衡的,别说不想走,就是走,如果经纪人否决土豪队、要求必须去豪门,他真可能走不了,曼联的意向并不确定

模糊印象流,觉得他每次发言都很强势,但结果对他和球员还不错
同样不觉得贝尔走的可能性大,除了这些因素以及皇马对他的看重,听说他的转会费还在分期付款,在付完之前热刺对转会有优先知情权购买权似乎还有否决权,如果属实,很难相信热刺会放他去直接竞争对手

godblessxz 发表于 2015-5-12 02:04:00

引用52楼 @Damon890977 发表的:
贝尔我要说 他值1亿。。。

在佛爷要买他的时候,我就说了喷老佛爷乱买乱卖花1亿好像花的是你家的钱的都是脑残。。

去年他帮唔皇拿了欧冠的时候,外线超车拿国王杯的时候,我曾经不止一次拿贝尔来喷这些骂老佛爷的脑残;

贝尔需要一大片的空地,然后一个切入,就来个不讲理的远射,而且还能进!!!!

三票哥已经老了,如果今年要卖人,我建议卖C罗,这个时候可以卖个好价钱给他抬啊,C罗也可以回家养老。

贝尔是唔皇的未来,不服的,我记着呢,,,他会打你脸的。早晚的事儿

你开心就好。

倍耐力 发表于 2015-5-12 07:21:00

引用59楼 @AOKOALICE 发表的:
你开心就好。

   这都要趁机黑一把c罗,外面话题区不待见就算了,这专区还有喊着已老要卖的,跨区指导的真是强啊...
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