斯科尔斯：我的复出让波巴离开了曼联

近日红魔传奇保罗-斯科尔斯在他给《独立报》的专栏中写道，他的复出是保罗-波巴离开曼联的一个原因。这位老特拉福德球场的传奇人物在2010-11赛季结束后宣布退役，但到了2012年1月，由于球队伤兵满营他临时复出。16个月前，在他的恩师弗格森爵士执教曼联的最后一个赛季里他再度为自己赢得一块英超冠军奖牌后正式退役。
虽然复出经历非常愉快，但现在斯科尔斯承认他一直在想他的那次回归对当时的希望之星波巴的离队有了多大的影响。年轻的法国人于2012年7月加盟尤文图斯，自那以后他逐渐成长为全欧最火的希望之星。现在他年仅21岁而身价已达到6000万英镑，他的经纪人米诺-拉伊奥拉更是宣称波巴将会成为历史上首个价值1亿英镑的球员。
“要是当时情况允许能给他机会，曼联绝不会放走波巴。”斯科尔斯在他给独立报的专栏中写道。“如果18个月前我没复出那现在他会是什么样子呢？可能我回归的那段时间正是保罗萌生去意的时候吧。”尽管现在波巴在都灵取得了令人震惊的进步，但斯科尔斯不觉得把他重新签回来是一个正确的决定。“对于曼联来说，我不觉得球队该把他带回来以弥补几年前我们放走他的错误。我理解切尔西把马蒂奇从本菲卡买回来的决定，但马蒂奇的身价和波巴现在的价位根本不能相提并论，我觉得这样做大错特错。”
在1月接受《442》采访时波巴承认尽管他离开曼联时并不愉快但他仍爱着曼联。“当时我实在等不及了，”波巴说：“教练确实信任我，但他就是不让我上场。他说我太年轻了。他还说，属于你的时候会来的，可惜我在曼联时这并没有发生。但这不意味着我会说曼联不好，我始终深爱这家俱乐部。”

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但这不意味着我会说曼联不好，我始终深爱这家俱乐部。
你确定？？？

唉，爱过
目前最好的年轻中场，偏偏曼联最缺的还是这个位置，以老头眼力要是年轻个十岁就断不能做出这种目光短浅的事情来

当时若是范加尔执教，他更有可能让波霸上场。但是爵爷当时打算能稳妥地拿个冠军，还一波猥琐流，只可惜阿奎罗的最后绝杀╮(╯▽╰)╭

要我打楼主脸么？这文章是斯科尔斯发在独立报网站上他的专栏。
而且原文里说道，他并不清楚他是不是博格巴离开曼联的主要原因。博格巴可能是在2011年12月31日对阵布莱克本的比赛时候就觉得离开曼联的。那场比赛中弗格森选择了卡里克作为中卫，而拉斐尔和朴智星作为中场人选，没有选择博格巴。
我觉得你以为皇马球迷发我魔的留言也不是不可以，但是能不能不要传播片面的消息。你的信息与原文有极大的出入，对我魔球迷产生误导，如果楼主不能够对你自己发的信息可信度负责，那你最好闭嘴。

赛季初老头跟博格巴说要他等的时候就决定不续约了吧

要我我也走，宁愿让一个老头复出，也不相信我的能力

引用4楼 @下一站七号 发表的:
要我打楼主脸么？这文章是斯科尔斯发在独立报网站上他的专栏。
而且原文里说道，他并不清楚他是不是博格巴离开曼联的主要原因。博格巴可能是在2011年12月31日对阵布莱克本的比赛时候就觉得离开曼联的。那场比赛中弗格森选择了卡里克作为中卫，而拉斐尔和朴智星作为中场人选，没有选择博格巴。
我觉得你以为皇马球迷发我魔的留言也不是不可以，但是能不能不要传播片面的消息。你的信息与原文有极大的出入，对我魔球迷产生误导，如果楼主不能够对你自己发的信息可信度负责，那你最好闭嘴。

   这位兄台首先感谢你的批评指正，不过我这篇报道的来源是每日镜报，原文地址在文末。原文里并没有布莱克本那场比赛的引用，我自然无法写出这段。我绝对没有歪曲原文的意思，可能是原文报道本身就不够全面，不过你说到的斯科尔斯说的话的来源已经修改了，再次感谢你的批评

一句话。现在的博格巴比任何时期的斯科尔斯都强的多

引用8楼 @fgxlc 发表的:
一句话。现在的博格巴比任何时期的斯科尔斯都强的多

你的智商跟头像一样

真是歷史性的時刻...沒走可能不會今天這樣....

镜报坑爹。
本着认真的精神我找到了独立报生姜头的版面。
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/paul-scholes-column-i-wonder-if-my-coming-out-of-retirement-hindered-paul-pogbas-chances-at-manchester-united-10216923.html

镜报引用了其他报纸 最早出现于1月14日的原文。
Paul Pogba during a rare moment of first team action at Manchester United Photo: REUTERS

By Telegraph Sport

2:49PM GMT 14 Jan 2015

[?IMG]Comment


Paul Pogba has revealed why he left Manchester United but insisted he still loves the club and will never "speak ill" of them.

The French midfielder left Old Trafford in 2012 after failing to start a first-team match in England. He joined Juventus for around ￡800,000, since when he has become one of the most highly-rated midfielders in world football, with a price tag in excess of ￡50million.

He has previous spoken of being "disgusted" at his treatment by Sir Alex Ferguson,
[color=]but in an interview with FourFourTwo magazine, he said his relationship with his former club had not been damaged.


Pogba, who shares an agent with widely-travelled Liverpool striker Mario Balotelli, has been linked with several leading English clubs, including United themselves, Manchester City and Chelsea, although there seems no prospect of him moving in the January transfer window.

"
[color=]I"m impatient
," Pogba, 21, told FourFourTwo. "It was the feeling I had. The coach (Ferguson) had faith in me but didn"t put me on. He said that I was too young.


"He said "your time will come" but it never did. It didn"t come.
[color=]But it does not mean I will speak ill of Manchester United
. I love the club."

In an earlier interview, Pogba had said the final straw at United had come when Ferguson picked full-back Rafael ahead of him in midfield.

Pogba said: "It was a very, very difficult moment for me because
[color=] I was in love with Manchester
and I was a Mancunian.

"It was the match against Blackburn in December 2011 at Old Trafford.

"Paul Scholes had retired, Darren Fletcher was injured. There was no one left to play in midfield. And I was training and I was beginning to get better bit by bit and the coach never stopped telling me, "You"re this far".

"And I didn"t understand. This far away from what? Playing? From having some playing time? From getting on the field? Or what?

"And there was Rafael in midfield and I was disgusted. I was disgusted and I didn"t get on either."


我反问一句，你有无见过一个刚上一线队，单赛季替补七场，就不耐烦要走的人，走了以后会说我爱以前的俱乐部？
举例：你新入职一家公司，不耐烦天天打杂，要走，你会不会真的很爱这家公司，还是说只是一句客套话。
答案显而易见，至少主观上。

引用9楼 @下一站七号 发表的:

你的智商跟头像一样


你智商和鲁尼一样。

引用11楼 @kevvv 发表的:
镜报坑爹。
本着认真的精神我找到了独立报生姜头的版面。
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/paul-scholes-column-i-wonder-if-my-coming-out-of-retirement-hindered-paul-pogbas-chances-at-manchester-united-10216923.html

镜报引用了其他报纸 最早出现于1月14日的原文。
Paul Pogba during a rare moment of first team action at Manchester United Photo: REUTERS

By Telegraph Sport

2:49PM GMT 14 Jan 2015

[?IMG]Comment


Paul Pogba has revealed why he left Manchester United but insisted he still loves the club and will never "speak ill" of them.

The French midfielder left Old Trafford in 2012 after failing to start a first-team match in England. He joined Juventus for around ￡800,000, since when he has become one of the most highly-rated midfielders in world football, with a price tag in excess of ￡50million.

He has previous spoken of being "disgusted" at his treatment by Sir Alex Ferguson,
[color=]but in an interview with FourFourTwo magazine, he said his relationship with his former club had not been damaged.


Pogba, who shares an agent with widely-travelled Liverpool striker Mario Balotelli, has been linked with several leading English clubs, including United themselves, Manchester City and Chelsea, although there seems no prospect of him moving in the January transfer window.

"
[color=]I"m impatient
," Pogba, 21, told FourFourTwo. "It was the feeling I had. The coach (Ferguson) had faith in me but didn"t put me on. He said that I was too young.


"He said "your time will come" but it never did. It didn"t come.
[color=]But it does not mean I will speak ill of Manchester United
. I love the club."

In an earlier interview, Pogba had said the final straw at United had come when Ferguson picked full-back Rafael ahead of him in midfield.

Pogba said: "It was a very, very difficult moment for me because
[color=] I was in love with Manchester
and I was a Mancunian.

"It was the match against Blackburn in December 2011 at Old Trafford.

"Paul Scholes had retired, Darren Fletcher was injured. There was no one left to play in midfield. And I was training and I was beginning to get better bit by bit and the coach never stopped telling me, "You"re this far".

"And I didn"t understand. This far away from what? Playing? From having some playing time? From getting on the field? Or what?

"And there was Rafael in midfield and I was disgusted. I was disgusted and I didn"t get on either."


我反问一句，你有无见过一个刚上一线队，单赛季替补七场，就不耐烦要走的人，走了以后会说我爱以前的俱乐部？
举例：你新入职一家公司，不耐烦天天打杂，要走，你会不会真的很爱这家公司，还是说只是一句客套话。
答案显而易见，至少主观上。

有啊，博格巴不就这么说的么？当初博格巴觉得自己有能力在曼联立足，可是并没有得到足够的出场时间，选择离开。现在回头看在曼联的3年时光，虽然没有得到什么出场机会，但是还是学习了很多，从而说出这种话也不为过吧。

在曼联最后一个赛季替补上了7场比赛，来尤文第一个赛季打上轮换，第二赛季挤掉马尔基西奥打主力，到现在成为各大豪门疯抢的对象。就是因为成长到现在的高度，才会引起大家的讨论，有些曼联球迷觉得当初弗格森不该放走他，有些觉得他是叛徒，不要也罢。弗格森和博格巴，一个强势刻板，觉得你还年轻，不要急，一步一步来，先学会走再学跑，不要想着一口吃成胖子，先打好地基才能盖好房子。可是你却如此心急，想要离开，对我对曼联都缺乏尊重。一个年轻气盛，觉得自己明明有实力在曼联立足，却没有得到足够的出场时间，我一身武艺无处施展，你对我缺乏尊重，我要离开。其实这件事双方都没有错，性格使然，如果重来一次还会是这种情况。更何况博格巴现在也成熟了，回想当初，虽然没有得到太多出场机会，但是在曼联的三年还是学到了很多东西，心里对曼联有爱，很正常啊。大家也没并要再酸什么

引用14楼 @azuth 发表的:
斯科尔斯，过去10年世界最好的中场，没有之一！！！

太主观了吧？同时期那么多中场巨星，齐达内，斯科尔斯，里克尔梅等等，球迷非要就第一争个你死我活，可人家几个是英雄惜英雄，互相吹捧。

弗格森后c罗时代基本没有一个年轻球员培养的算不错，德赫亚应该是门将教练的功劳多一些

[ 此帖被ヅ麥芽糖?在2015-05-03 07:11修改 ]

引用8楼 @fgxlc 发表的:
一句话。现在的博格巴比任何时期的斯科尔斯都强的多

这...我作为博格巴的人迷都有感觉太夸张了，博格巴还有很多需要进步的地方，上限也许比斯科尔斯高，但现在不可能强很多吧

像8楼跟12楼这样的发言都能在魔区多亮？我也是醉了。